VC PRs - how are we going to maintain the spec after group has completed ✪
<identitywoman_> Feb 1, 3, 5. 9-1 pst / noon-5 est.
<identitywoman_> just another sentence for the notes The Thoughtful Biometrics Workshop is creating a space to dialogue about critical emerging issues surrounding biometric and digital identity technologies. Biometrics technology is being used in a wide range of contexts and there in this range of existing and potential uses, there are many questions about the ethical and socially good uses.
Merging things in - there's no big blockers for now - ✪
<orie_> Raises questions about sponsorship / github sponsors for repos, etc..
Topic: Infrastructure task Force
<mprorock> @orie - yes indeed, I think that is definitely an option and worthy of future discussion
<tallted> "Infrastructure" may not have been the right label for what was originally targeted ...
<kim> that sounds like something the chairs could communicate better to speakers
<kim> we should make sure to clarify this to invited speakers
<heathervescent> I am willing to work on the audit as well
<kim> we are getting short on time, so I'll just say my comments on the record.
<kim> I'm in support of this task force. The fact that chairs were historically able to manage infrastructure, publish minutes, etc -- that happened as a result of a ton of work from Manu and then me.
<kim> time check -- we should wrap this up and move to the main speaker
Topic: Generative Identity
<drummond> that is simply a misunderstand about how SSI works. It is highly verb-like
<identitywoman_> with all due respect Philip you haven't actively particiapted in the technology development for the last 15 years. So to say that we are centered on noun like ID is THE dominant frame in our community it "is" A frame that happens to be solved with this technology. A huge focus of the work has also been focused on the verb like aspects particularly with the DIDComm specification.
<kerri_lemoie> I'm a technologist & a psychologist
<drummond> I think Philip needs more exposure to the full breadth of the SSI community
<identitywoman_> Sorry but their are systems that are way worse then SSI on the march in the real world including what is being built in China and the Aadhaar system being exported to Africa. So "pausing" means those other far worse systems will continue to push out into the world.
<heathervescent> Thanks Philip for coming to share this with the community.
<kim> /me I'm a standup comic if that helps
<phil> I appreciate the interdisciplinary concern and the possible distressing outcomes that could emerge without it. I do think there reasonable worries that we perhaps need more proactive outreach. That's important. But there is more diversity, at least in this community, is greater than many.
<heathervescent> But many of us technologist/other field still have a technological bias... I would be curious to hear the non-technology/ experts comments.
<phil> It would be interesting to surface the actual diversity in this group that lurks, is present, but perhaps not as transparent as might be helpful.
<drummond> I simply do not agree with the premise that SSI architecture is “noun-like”. Implemented correctly, it is the most “verb-like” digital identity model ever created.
<kerri_lemoie> I think it would be worthwhile & educational to hold a cross-disciplinary discussion on the principles.
<drummond> Ironically the EU has provided more funding for SSI than any other government