<tallted> tangent -- What "office hours" are folks speaking of? I'm sure there's a calendar or mailing list I should have subscribed to, but haven't... Please point me (and others) there?
<tantek> having trouble with mic
<mprorock> tantek - a refresh might work if it isn't a system issue
<bobwyman> He's not on.
<mprorock> Tantek if you can jump in post Tzvia audio wise, that would be great
<mprorock> @ted - going to start queue in a minute
<rgrant_(ryan_grant)> tantek, try the phone: +1 602 932 2243 x1
Topic: Interplay between W3C and Community Groups
<heather_vescent> My Q:
<heather_vescent> Mike - I have one last question if possible to ask.
<mprorock> we have time
Strategically, governing ourselves to meet needs of community. ✪
<mprorock> Moving on to queue after tantek here - I believe bob wyman is on point
<heather_vescent> The sharing and transparency is appreciated. Thank you.
Topic: Differences Between W3C and IETF
<mprorock> BDFL - Benevolent Dictator for Life
<bobwyman> In what ways is the standards process of W3C better than that of IETF? What would be lost by relying more on IETF?
<tzviya> CEPC= Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct
Of CEPC, but it's different than code of conduct at IETF. ✪
<rgrant> Why not work the good ideas of CEPC into IETF, if they're good then why would they object?
<rgrant> queue check
<orie> Speaking as an AC rep, I pay for transparency, and accountability... and open standards work, conducted on a reasoanble timeline... all of which seem blocked by the LE issue.
<bobwyman> Some CCG members, like me, are not affiliated with deep-pockets employers who can pay the W3C fees.
<heather_vescent> Also, I sincerely appreciate Chris, David, Eric, Leonie, Tzviya and Tantek for being here and speaking with us. I know this is a conversation in progress. And I thank you for listening to this community and perspective.
<orie> I would suggest stop processing FOs and Charters until the future of the organization has been secured.
<pl> go for it
<orie> IETF doesn't care about politics or feelings enough... maybe harsh, but true... see CEPC differences.
On this? <-- that's the question. You have to respect patent policy and copyright, plenty of efforts wrt. IETF -- not interested in changing that, if IETF is the better location, I am not opposed to that. ✪
<bobwyman> I'm not a member of W3C but, I've been working on this stuff longer than virtually anyone who is. While I can participate easily in IETF work, I'm always wondering what I'm "allowed" to do or see in the W3C...
<heather_vescent> Thank you all.
<heather_vescent> Thank you Mike for setting up this call.
<charles_e._lehner> Great discussion, very interesting!