<mprorock> it is really nebulous and makes me highly nervous
<mprorock> I don't think CCG helps it long term either
<orie> there is OIDF as well, working on protcols related to this
<bumblefudge> Fraunhofer SIT
<orie> I am not asking for anyone to do anything.
<orie> contribute where you think you should.
<identitywoman> The Relying party problem (where can VCs be accepted) is a really big one - the OIDC relying party "solution" is reasonable - expecting everyone to rip and replace completely to use VCs.
<identitywoman> is not reasonable
<orie> Many folks feel the same way about the CCG manu... it's the nature of human tribalism.
<bumblefudge> perhaps they were really wed to COSE?
<orie> yes, some folks like COSE over JSON.
<manu_sporny> I know folks feel the same way about CCG, Orie :) -- and it is the unfortunate nature of tribalism. People spend time on the things that they want to contribute to, where they want to contribute to them.