Patrick_(IDLab): Yeah just said if we have time there it's come to my attention a solution from matter it was called the launch pad from matter labs and add a bit of a look and I'm curious if we could see how this would fit into the VC API that we are discussing here. ✪
<mahmoud> would anyone not speaking be able to mute please
Topic: Introductions, Relevant Community Updates
Patrick_(IDLab): Oh yeah just wanted to give a few updates about what's going on here and Canada so the idea lab is officially helping the province of Quebec for their digital ID program since just before the holidays parallel to that Newfoundland announced last week they were starting the POC for the digital ID program as well so I think we'll see a lot of things happening there the other thing the Aries agent testified. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): harness maintainers are looking into. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): In the VC API test Suites and to their flow somewhere so at the moment is just an observation of how that would be possible and that's it for me thank you. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): So at the moment it Quebec Ontario and BC are sort of caliber collaborating on a pan-canadian blockchain initiative working with Hyper Ledger in the so this is a very much an action mostly led by b.c. the other provinces are learning the technology for Newfoundland there was not much information but I'm not. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): Network once it's a bit more mature. ✪
Topic: MATTR Launchpad
Patrick_(IDLab): Yeah yeah so I just discovered this solution today someone showed it to me and I thought they was a cool maybe you can tell me more about it I'm assuming you're familiar with this platform. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): Yeah I can share the link basically they offered three examples of credentials that you can issue to be proof of concept once you go through the step you get to a certain point so you can pretend to be a specific user and then it generates you a QR code and this QR code is did web URL. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): And it says open and wallet so I was just curious like. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): How could the VC API be leveraged to ingest this information if possible or if I'm misunderstanding the principal here. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): You said that a coyote or what's the duct. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): Interesting I will definitely spend more time experimenting with it it's very interesting and it's just a side note I totally forgot to the committee of data we had a consultation with company called volte and they want to develop test Suites for oid see. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): So I don't know if it's a organization that you've heard of before. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): I don't know much about how far off they are but it was something they're interested in it. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): Yeah I took some notes and I'll play around when I have some down time at work. ✪
Topic: Pull Request Review
Topic: Publication via VCWG on hold
Patrick_(IDLab): What a question but when you see something like some folks push backs against the VC API like do you need unanimity for something like that to go through or it's bit not so clear or do you need majority as it a vote based issue or. ✪
<kayode_ezike> My question exactly
Patrick_(IDLab): When you say like the big players that are isn't that like some form of like lobbying there I say. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): Okay because like reading the documentation like one big distinction I'm seeing with the work that's been done we see API it's a lot more of a technical approach as like the VC data model for example is more like just a specification that doesn't really tell people how to do stuff and I see this API maybe is I want to say like tightening the screw a little bit on a how to do stuff so that's like one distinction. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): Ian I could see I don't know if that has to play with the. ✪
<michael_herman_(web_7.0)> What is the transport that Mi roso
<michael_herman_(web_7.0)> What is the transport that Microsoft prefers?
<kayode_ezike> If we end up forming a new working group, might it still cause challenges by creating a schism in the community?
<manu_sporny> Microsoft prefers OpenID4VCI and OpenID4VP
<michael_herman_(web_7.0)> Thk u
<paul_dietrich_gs1> Any thoughtful comparisons documents of OpenID4VC(s) and VC-API?
<tallted> invited experts are a thing...
<tallted> all solutions are imperfect. sadly.
Paul_Dietrich_GS1: Yamato I know you talked about that as one of the Alternatives I missed were there other Alternatives that were proposed. ✪
TallTed_//_Ted_Thibodeau_(he/him)_(OpenLinkSw.com): Yeah I'm pretty good with mandating sort of minimal requirements but also allowing for larger responses and as a troubleshooter I absolutely want to be able to get the biggest error I can so this might be a configurable thing that might be switchable whether it's by user basis or the admin has to push a button or whatever that's. ✪
TallTed_//_Ted_Thibodeau_(he/him)_(OpenLinkSw.com): that sort of thing. ✪
TallTed_//_Ted_Thibodeau_(he/him)_(OpenLinkSw.com): I think implementation-specific. ✪
TallTed_//_Ted_Thibodeau_(he/him)_(OpenLinkSw.com): But I definitely want to leave the door open for implementations to provide. ✪
TallTed_//_Ted_Thibodeau_(he/him)_(OpenLinkSw.com): Really sufficient information to troubleshoot whatever it is it's Arirang for whatever reason. ✪
TallTed_//_Ted_Thibodeau_(he/him)_(OpenLinkSw.com): I know we all we only write perfect code but. ✪
TallTed_//_Ted_Thibodeau_(he/him)_(OpenLinkSw.com): He's going to do something someday. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): Yeah I agree with this I think covering all state to code possible is a must for case that might need more information I'm thinking maybe some kind of specification that two different errors could return the same error code they would be good to know the the reason for it in the case that some implemented would want to return more detail about the ever I. ✪
Patrick_(IDLab): Good idea to have a sort of predefined Shimmer for how ever bodies should be but leave the content at the ends of the implementer that would be the than what comes to mind for me. ✪
<dmitri_zagidulin> we should probably look at the various RFCs that specify error detail fields..
Patrick_(IDLab): I'm just thinking also like if we go back to the test Suite like in the case we want to have like a negative test you know like the test like is invalid credential idea or whichever and we want to analyze the response to match the test might be better to do if there's this like predefined ever Shima and that could be another reason. ✪