The W3C Credentials Community Group

Meeting Transcriptions and Audio Recordings (2014-today)

Go Back

Verifiable Traceability Task Force

Transcript for 2024-08-01

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/Search/Mail/Public/advanced_search?hdr-1-name=subject&hdr-1-query=%5BAGENDA&period_month=Aug&period_year=2024&index-grp=Public__FULL&index-type=t&type-index=public-credentials&resultsperpage=20&sortby=date
Organizer
Orie Steele, Mike Prorock, Mahmoud Alkhraishi
Scribe
Our Robot Overlords and Nis Jespersen and Our Robot Overlords and Our Robot Overlords
Present
Mahmoud Alkhraishi, Nis Jespersen , brentz, TallTed // Ted Thibodeau (he/him) (OpenLinkSw.com)
Audio Log
Our Robot Overlords are scribing.
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Auto transcriber or do you want to anyone want to subscribe.
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Oh you're still not picked up here that's funny okay I'll turn it off.
Nis Jespersen is scribing.
Nis Jespersen : Make sure to cover intent to import and workflows
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Yes that, and also testing
Start with testing on interop
Our Robot Overlords are scribing.
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Is it died.
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Um I don't think it's super urgent I just think this is like that's the only really big that's there's that's 1 of 2 pending items right.
Our Robot Overlords are scribing.
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Brent, would you be picking up 529? [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Turned on and then I had to turn it off and then.
<nis> And PR 665
<nis> Which has a lot of friction
Nis Jespersen : Brent: I properly forget, will get to it
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: The remaining two is about testing [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
<nis> Discussed with Orie, adding a dry run endpoint
Nis Jespersen : Consensus: let's create a second endpoint, name tbd, no storage
Nis Jespersen : Brent: do we need to test this? We are moving to svip anyway?
Nis Jespersen : Brent: we could also just call it a day
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: For FCGS no testing is required [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : Beyond looking good it's not like you are interoperable one day and then stop being interoperable [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : Brent: so assumingly we can close 657?
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Yes, I added pending close. [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: We should also turn off github actions [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : Brent: and delete section 8
Nis Jespersen : Brent: assign me to 657, I will make a PR to remove it
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: What we the next steps for fcgs? [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : Brent: we show up to a meeting and tell we're ready
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: So we can close out next ween and contact chairs? [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Vocab [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
<nis> Let's talk about workflows
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Three separate requirements: [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : [Long rant on about supply chains] [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
<brentz> very educational rant
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: I should be able to indicate data about products which I am not intending to import [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : Case: producer of crude oil. Representive of a barrel of oil. I dilute it for movement. Declaration of diluence origin.
<nis> Separation of diluent and crude oil
<nis> Today diluent information is not really filed
<nis> There is no way for a workflow to indicate which diluent is present
<nis> So I want to make another credential concering diluent
<nis> "Don't apply the business process on the other product imported"
<nis> The producer and importer are different parties
<nis> Intent to import could become optional
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Separate the Legal disclaimer from the Import product filtering [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : Great, but let's stick the the original meaning of intent to import [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Fine with that [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : But it sounds a little naive to expect that people are eager to provide more data than necessary [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: That is the situation today. The products get transformed [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: It's weird we don't have a credential to focus from a bunch of documents what is intended for import [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : So, like scrap metal information, but it's the melted coils which are to be imported? [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Yes [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : Have you looked into product passports? [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: But there is a privacy aspect. The producer should not be involved [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Nis Jespersen : Brent: what are the actions?
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: 1) Find a good name for this credential, 2) Add schema and example workflow [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
Mahmoud Alkhraishi: I assume I will do it? [scribe assist by Nis Jespersen ]
<nis> I will do it asap, but won't be ale to get to it in August