Kim Hamilton Duffy: Nominates Heather to be reintroduced! ✪
Topic: Introductions and Reintroductions
Heather Vescent: Runs a strategic consultancy, in the tech industry 20+ years, futurist. Published a comprehensive SSI research report - ask for details. ✪
Heather Vescent: SSI similar to previous digital asset grid work at SWIFT ✪
Manu Sporny: Ccg needs to keep focused on a few topics to avoid slow progress and dissipation ✪
Manu Sporny: E.g. the way we are doing signatures in VC and DID Spec is not locked down - commercial deployers need this to be locked down ✪
Manu Sporny: Ccg stil needs to decide on what work should be next ✪
Christopher Allen: Still lots of ccg items to work on - such as deep dives into individual methods - the DID WG wont necessarily work on these things ✪
Manu Sporny: The natural place to work on method spec is the ccg ✪
Dan Burnett: Verifiable Credentials update - lots of people at W3C are not aware of the vc work at all - has been quiet, people not sure of status ✪
Dan Burnett: Might consider doing a separate breakout on verifiable claims - as long as it does not compete with did wg ✪
Christopher Allen: Suggests that the verifiable claims primer really helps people engage ✪
Heather Vescent: Me/ sounds like this is a press/promotions problem... ✪
Christopher Allen: The ccg could hold some of the primers ✪
Matt Stone: Heathervescent yes re: press/promotion challenge. ✪
Lionel Wolberger: All this socializing at TPAC, would a T-Shirt help? I know DIDs and VCs, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt ✪
Manu Sporny: Dan - is the sense that the W3C membership is unaware? or the general public? ✪
Heather Vescent: If only there was someone in the community who was good doing that? ;-) ✪
Lionel Wolberger: I would love a T-shirt saying Data Minimization, Selective Disclosure, Progressive Trust ✪
Matt Stone: During a meeting last week - unlike the ccg work on DIDs, there’s less blogging and public work on verifiable credentials - so vcs are a bit under the radar ✪
Matt Stone: The VC WG needs to keep public visibility of the data model in mind ✪
Lionel Wolberger: Maybe with a binary joke: Ask me about these 110 words: Data Minimization, Selective Disclosure, Progressive Trust ✪
Christopher Allen: VC WG - concurs that visibility might be lower - but verifiable credentials are the next big piece of work after DIDs ✪
Heather Vescent: CBP has said they are using DIDs and VCs are a part of the next generation solution. If you want to trade with the United States, you will have to use DIDs and VCs. ✪
Manu Sporny: There were 35+ press releases around this ✪
Manu Sporny: The timing of spec development versus press awareness is normally disjointed ✪
Manu Sporny: Next-generation-evolution of specs like verifiable credentials typically goes back into community groups (like the ccg) ✪
Christopher Allen: And we should add that VC transition to CCG slides ✪
Matt Stone: Noted to the W3C staff - the charter of the WG is constrained to only the data model - but the magic sucess ingredient is DIDs and Protocols ✪
Matt Stone: So the VC work has to be told in the whole, not as the atomic parts ✪
Dan Burnett: The Verifiable Credentials WG will be discussing their charter at TPAC - there are continuation options ✪
Matt Stone: Hopefully you'll all be in that discussion :) ✪
Heather Vescent: Regarding promotion of the topics - many of us are technical - press and others take control over the narrative if this community does not put the story out there ✪
Heather Vescent: This community doesn’t like financially supporting non-technical work ✪
Matt Stone: +1 To heathervescent commentary about supporting the megaphone ✪
Manu Sporny: Perhaps we can do bounties for marketing, PR? ✪
Heather Vescent: For example the SSI report is a big piece of work that supports things like PR and Marketing and outreach ✪
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Amen, we absolutely need to be communicating our work in compelling, human readable ways. ✪
Heather Vescent: Wants this community to control the narrative ✪
Manu Sporny: +1 -- So, we need to figure out how to fund that.... the vehicle. ✪
Christopher Allen: Heathervescent has floated the idea of open-sourcing the SSI report if there is sufficient financial support ✪
Heather Vescent: Has privately floated the idea of bounties - also creating updates to the SSI report, podcasts, other media - needs financial support ✪
Dan Burnett: This has always been the point: we are talking about identifiers, not identities. No ownership, just control over. ✪
Christopher Allen: We need to communicate the ‘control’ preference over ‘owner’ words ✪
Christopher Allen: Ccg needs to communicate the reasons for this ✪
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Marcus’ DID Resolution - needs a separate section for this ✪
Manu Sporny: You were looking for a volunteer, I am not clear what it was for... [scribe assist by Lionel Wolberger] ✪
Dave Longley: Maybe more language about how DIDs are identifiers that are designed to better express independent existence of individuals, orgs, machines, etc .... instead of strongly binding them to unrelated services (that might be better in the spec than the charter though) ✪