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Verifiable Claims and Digital Verification

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Credentials CG Telecon

Minutes for 2019-03-26

Amy Guy: Voip, 92a is rhiaro
Vaughan Emery: Present +

Topic: Introductions / Reintoroductions

Ken Ebert: SW architect with Sovrin, 6 months, VCWG and DID spec soon. Sovrin is a public utility for all [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]

Topic: Announcements

Adrian Gropper: Folks are at KNOW
Adrian Gropper: IIW April 30-May 2
Kim Hamilton Duffy: DIF SSI Hackathon the day before IIW April 29 - Interop - Usecase definition [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]

Topic: Progress on Action Items

Kim Hamilton Duffy: . Https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22action%3A+review+next%22
Adrian Gropper: Review survey results - impact and things we might do differently in 2019 Having call in problems, mostly resolved but let us know
Adrian Gropper: DID Issue #59
No he sent regrets
Marcus sent regrets
Christopher Allen: Assigning #59 to Drummond and Manu [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Kim Hamilton Duffy: UPort and Dominode missing DID specs [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: ... Create DID Explainer - Burn?
Dan Burnett: Working on DID explainer, resolution vs. dereferencing have affected the work. What the driver is from the TAG? Who is expected to need this? Weekly call with Joe [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Working with Joe on use cases - need to know the timing [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: ... Need update from steering cmt differences on
Adrian Gropper: Bhodan: Updated issue - enumerates EIP - standards allow you to manage identity - Ethereum relationship to DID
Adrian Gropper: ... Complex, dynamic, the EIPs change, see GitHub, research this yourself and please add clarity - uPort or ERC725 , please explain difference
Kim Hamilton Duffy: ERC780 no longer supported by uPort - clims registry - [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: Bhodan: ERC725 now has draft 2 and they do use the 780 registry -
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Would be great to have an Eth person. Chairs will follow up on Friday. Don't have a place to have a dicoverable place [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Chris Webber: Thanks for the list. Wouldlike to address discoverability issue. Useful to track down the GitHub names of the people involved are [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: ...Concerned that people are saying they are doing DID but are not actually on this community if they claim support and get their input
Adrian Gropper: ...If people talk about DID let them know to join CCG
Bohdan Andriyiv: Changing support for 780 [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: Main Issue of the Day with Daniel B is on tap:
Adrian Gropper: ChristoperA: Need URL for DIF current project list, wnyone?
Adrian Gropper: Daniel having a hard time connecting

Topic: DIF Report Out

Christopher Allen: CCG is a coordination poinbt among these different efforts, not hust the DID registry but want suggestions for other projects - have them present at CCG [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: ... For 10-15miuntes once a month - please let chairs know - Ecosystem Participant Presentations
Kim Hamilton Duffy: We're able to work some different topics for now. [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Looking for DID initiatives and the pre-IIW hackathon - review upcoming efforts - working groups, etc... [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Kim Hamilton Duffy: DIF site: https://identity.foundation
Daniel Buchner: Productive sessions at KNOW. Working and to discuss on April 29 - 1) DID Authentication with encryption added with docs and OIDC compatible [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: ... With Mike Jones
Kim Hamilton Duffy: DIF working groups: https://identity.foundation/#wgs
Adrian Gropper: ... Hoping to codify that and provide a library
Adrian Gropper: ... Another thing Sitetree? Overlay protocol for blockchains to achieve scaled volumes - Microsoft 30-40K / sec DID Auth
Adrian Gropper: ... 1% Consumptopon on test chain. No signatories or censorship
Adrian Gropper: ... Also a group on Ehtereum method to direct ???
Adrian Gropper: ... Also claims manifest - you construct as an issuing party in order to get a claim - 3 of these or 5 of those, etc... Want people to know what they need
Adrian Gropper: ... Also Universal Resolver, of course
Adrian Gropper: Are you using the Claims Manifest?
Daniel Buchner: Issuer would say what they need as input in order to satisfy the issue. Does not describe the claim you get itself [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Ken Ebert: Also usable on the verifier end maybe - symmetry interesting to explore [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Daniel Buchner: How do you find a manifest? is a general problem. [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Claims Manifest need more examples - some of us haven't gotten to open systems yet - anyone interested please get involved [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Claims manifest issuer<->and also verifier?
Adrian Gropper: ... List of working groups needed How do people get involved in DID Auth
Daniel Buchner: Oliver T will chair DID Auth workgroup to come - working with Mike Jones - shaping roadmap for production - starting soon [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Other working groups? Identifier name discovery? [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Daniel Buchner: Universal Resolver and have a number of them. Sidetree stuff is major. Microsoft will use and announce in April. These atr the two big [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Universal resolver? Any bridge to legacy systems like Finargo or Gemalto?
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Storage and Compute WG? [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Daniel Buchner: Persoanl data store and Identiity Hubs for storing user idenity data - not just for claims but also for application data - a serverless vision - [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: ... Across a set of replicated synced devices
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Universal Resolver bridge to legacy systems like Finargo or Gemalto [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Samantha Mathews Chase: Is there anything connecting to webid?
Bohdan Andriyiv: What is the difference between DIF and CCG, W3C DID working group? Why DIF (in general)? Who is it for? DIF participants?
Daniel Buchner: Microsoft working on Identity Experience Framework - claims transformation - making DID claim digestible by Azure - [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: Bhodan: What is the difference between DIF and W3C and CCG? What kind of companies?
Daniel Buchner: DIF is a pre-standards. Will front-run some stuff to speed things up. Might not be a W3C thing. Registry things are an example. Because DIF is not an SDO they can do more stuff [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: ... Claims Manifest are an example of industry need come to light
Adrian Gropper: ... DIF gathers industry use cases and drives to
Kim Hamilton Duffy: DIF is complementary to CCG - communications more open - universal resolver is a great example - incubation of future standards - [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]
Adrian Gropper: ... In VC it's useful to have more use case info
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Wrapping up??? Anyone? Next wee we present the Survey [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper]