<jim_goodell> Announcement from Phil: On 27th meeting of LER Network 3:30 pm ET
<jim_goodell> John joined - from pocket initiative
Topic: Introductions & Reintroductions
<jim_goodell> Heather V. co-chair from CCG reintroduced. CCG is one of the largest community groups in the W3C
<jim_goodell> Heather - Has consultancy ...making tech understandable to non-technologists, published book(s?)... Also spearheaded outreach from CCG. Here today to answer questions bout process and how work of this task force fits with CCG.
Heather Vescent: 2 Kinds of work items and two kinds of deliverables. Ongoing community draft is a deliverable that is never finished vs. Community Report which most likely has a final draft. [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
Kerri Lemoie: Modeling Ed. Verifiable Credentials - may be a finalized draft vs. use cases may be ongoing. [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
Heather Vescent: It can be a double edge sword. The charter can be reworked to change what category and deliverables, there is flexibility [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
<phil_l_(p1)> It's precisely these periodic discussions that helps the community understand it's a living, active conversation, and so the documentation of it needs this apace and characterization.
Kerri Lemoie: Proposes revising charter to 1) specify that we meet on Jitsi, 2) about recording and that meeting minutes distributed to the CCG mailing list. (Reviewed key points from current charter) [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
Marty Reed: Raise question about definition of "consensus" [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
<anthonyfcamilleri> According to ISO/IEC Guide 2:2004 Standardization and related activities – General vocabulary, consensus is “General agreement, characterized by the absence of sustained opposition to substantial issues by any important part of the concerned interests and by a process that involves seeking to take into account the views of all parties concerned and to reconcile any conflicting arguments.ž
<jim_goodell> Heather will share a link with information from the CCG group and Anthony shared definition (will share link?) (one objection - may have consensus, small opposing group may not mean consensus)
<jim_goodell> See Anthony's definition from ISE/IEC above
Kerri Lemoie: Work can start narrower and then broaden with new work items [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
Phil Archer: Some of the groups we are involved in are standards groups and some work is being done to explore innovation outside of standards groups, but then those innovations might go through a formal process within SDOs (paraphrased) [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
Kerri Lemoie: We can recognize other work being done in other groups and note alignment [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
Anthony Ronning: Some of the work done here is not education-specific. Is there any way for our group to make recommendations to the overall CGG standards rather than keep at the VC-EDU level? [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
Heather Vescent: Yes. [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
<anthonyfcamilleri> one use case I will add for sure: Accreditation/Trusted Issuers. If I remember properly from other calls, I'm not the only one for that?
Kerri Lemoie: Community Report Draft should focus on Focus on native alignment to the VC Data Model [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪
<nate_otto_(badgr/csky)> Does a task force of a community group have the authority to use the word "standard"?
<john_kuo> Thank you Kerri I have to drop but this is excellent work
Kerri Lemoie: Charter has clause about 'minimum disruption' that she suggests should probably come out because we are disruptive space [scribe assist by Jim Goodell] ✪